Tribble Ad Agency: Barack Obama chooses Kathleen Sebelius for Vice President
Miller
· 1 year ago
Sebelius would be a great pick. She has campaigned for Obama all over the country since she endorsed him in January. She's been in Ohio, Pa, Cal, Missouri, Michigan, Colorado, Utah, all over. She will be at an event for Obama in Michigan on Tuesday, and then at four campaign stops in the Des Moines area campaigning for Obama on Thursday.
How many Obama campaign events has Biden stumped on? Any at all?
I wouldn't be surprised if Obama campaigns with Sebelius at the Iowa events she already has scheduled on Thursday. VP announcement could come Thursday morning, maybe with an early morning event in Chicago, before they fly to Des Moines and then campaign together Friday, sat, sun, in swing states, until the convention.
Miller
· 1 year ago
Hmm...not much speculation buzzing here yet in the form of comments. Probably because the mainstream media has been letting Sebelius fly under the radar on the veepstakes. Everyone is buzzing about Biden, Kaine, Bayh, meanwhile Obama hides his stealth pick right under everyone's noses. If you read the articles, Sebelius is usually mentioned as one of the half-dozen people that have been vetted, but she's sort of mentioned as an afterthought.
I think Sebelius is the SMART pick for Obama to make. She has the most upside of all the VP candidates, in terms of bringing women home to Obama and reinforcing Obama's change message. She's high risk / high reward. If Sebelius and Hillary Clinton campaign TOGETHER around the country, I think a lot of those female Clinton supporters, especially the older ones, will vote Obama. If Sebelius is the VP, the Obama campaign needs to get a lot of Sebelius / Clinton rallies going to stir up the media machine on this.
Miller
· 1 year ago
What I meant to say is they need to stir the media machine by making it obvious that Hillary supports Sebelius as VP, because if they don't, the "media narrative" will quickly become how Obama snubbed Hillary by picking Sebelius.
Miller
· 1 year ago
Since I'm having a nice little conversation with myself here, I thought I would also mention that Sebelius is the ONE pick that Obama could make that would NEUTRALIZE any pick that McCain could make that might cause some "excitement" to come to the McCain campaign. McCain is setting himself up to announce right after the Dem convention ends, probably on Friday, August 29. He wants to see who Obama picks, then he wants to "one-up" him with his pick. If Obama plays it safe, with someone like Bayh or Kaine, I wouldn't be surprised to see McCain come back with someone like Kay Bailey Hutchison or Meg Whitman.
McCain and his handlers know the Clinton women are still out there, bitter about the primary, and they might try to pull some of them in with a female VP. That would be certain death for Obama's candidacy. If he's smart, he will have already considered this. If he picks Sebelius, who could McCain pick that would top that?
TheFounder
· 1 year ago
Trust me Miller, plenty of people are seeing the post.. it's just that we need verification... I trust the source that leaked it to me initially... but I need verification.
TD Hill
· 1 year ago
I think Sebelius is a horrible choice. Frankly, this notion that "any woman will do" is the most ignorant, sexist and patronizing crap I've heard in a while. Kathleen Sebelius, while qualified, is not nearly as experienced or qualified as Hillary Clinton. To pick a woman who is clearly not as qualified as Hillary, nor as large an asset to the ticket as Hillary is political suicide for Obama. Women will not be mollified by this. Indeed, women will be more incensed. Contrary to popular belief, women didn't just vote for Hillary because their reproductive organs were similar, they voted for her because they believed she was qualified and the best person for the job, who happened to be a woman, which was certainly a perk.
For Obama to pick a woman, who is not Hillary, is an open slap to Hillary, showing that the didn't not pick her because she was a woman, but because she was Hillary. Meaning he will have to answer all kinds of questions as to why he believed Hillary was not suitable, while Sebelius is. Further, if he parrots the bullshit, sexist answer of it being "because of Bill," he will strike even more discord within the party. He will force himself to continue the Hillary bashing that was so prevalent during the primary, which will gain him no votes from Hillary's supporters.
In short, it would be the height of foolishness for Obama to pick a woman who's name is not Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Miller
· 1 year ago
Maybe Obama thinks Sebelius IS the most qualified person for the job, but she just happens to be a woman. If he does pick her, I don't think it's because she's a woman, but because he thinks she's the best PERSON for the job. Her being a woman is a part of the political calculation, not the reason for choosing her.
Sebelius is actually more qualified to be president than either Obama or Clinton. She was state representative in Kansas many years, Kansas insurance commissioner for eight years, and Governor for 6 years. Clinton has been a Senator for 8 years, but that's the only elected office she's held. How is that more qualified than Sebelius? You should check Sebelius' record in Kansas. She's rock-solid.
Laura in Wa
· 1 year ago
TD Hill said: "For Obama to pick a woman, who is not Hillary, is an open slap to Hillary, showing that the didn’t not pick her because she was a woman, but because she was Hillary. Meaning he will have to answer all kinds of questions as to why he believed Hillary was not suitable, while Sebelius is."
Um...maybe I'm confused, but isn't that how it SHOULD work? That Hillary (or any other VP contender) is chosen or not based on who they are as individuals, not based on gender?
If he chooses Sebelius, why should he have to explain why Hillary was "not suitable" any more than he'd have to explain why Biden, Bayh, Kaine, or any of the other names that have been floated were "not suitable"? Just because she and Hillary are both women?
Picking Sebelius wouldn't mean there was something "unsuitable" about the other candidates. It just means that for whatever combination of reasons, he thought she would be the strongest choice. Period.
Don't get me wrong -- I'm not saying he should pick Sebelius. I was leaning toward her, but now I'm kind of hoping for Biden or even Hillary. But to me it defies logic for so-called "feminists" to take a position of: "Well, if he doesn't pick Hillary, he'd BETTER NOT pick another woman!"
Shaun
· 1 year ago
The ad agency leak is interesting, but you should take down the domain name speculation. Thousands of domains are registered to GoDaddy with the Domains by Proxy service. NSX.DOMAINCONTROL.COM is a default GoDaddy nameserver. Nevertheless, I have emailed the domain owner to try and get more information.
Terry in Hayward, CA
· 1 year ago
I would love for this rumor to be true.
Kathleen Sebelius is the most qualified to govern if she should be come President. She is post-partisan, outside of the beltway and has demonstrated political courage when it was neither easy nor convenient.
Moreover, she and Barack have a great rapport. She was an early endorser when most of the party - especial female party members - supported Clinton because Sebelius thought that Obama's message of inclusion was what the country needed.
Her selection would be akin to Bill Clinton doubling down on the change message with his selection of Al Gore. Lastly, the Sebelius selection would both excite the grassroots and would garner large amounts of media coverage.
She has long been my first choice and I would be ecstatic if she were the VEEP nominee.
daygator
· 1 year ago
I badly want this to be true. But I can't imagine how it can be. Why would Obama's famously tight circle of VP-advisors let hints like that leak to their ad agency before even letting people on the DNC know? Or their own staff? I could see how the ad agency would find out sooner than others, because they'd need some time to make their product. But why would they be privy to the "vast majority of the discussions", before a decision is made? That seems highly unlikely. Can you explain?
Still, I hope I'm way wrong, and you're way right.
TheFounder
· 1 year ago
The Agency knew because they had the get the website ready..... and they generally need a week or two to code it....
daygator
· 1 year ago
Hmm. But why would the campaign hold discussions about selecting a VP in front of the agency? By the way you phrased it ("the vast majority of the discussions there are regarding material logistics in terms of Kathleen on the vice president ticket") it sounds like the campaign was sharing their VP candidates with the agency, before making a decision.
I can see that the agency would need some lead-time to make the website, etc., but why would they know anything more than the bottom line: "make a website for Obama/______". The more that is shared outside the inner-circle, the more is leaked (case-in-point) and the less that sounds like the No-Drama-Obama campaign.
waterprise2
· 1 year ago
Why are people continuing to say "Hillary is the most qualified"? If she was/is so qualified, why couldn't she win the nomination? Unfortunately for Hillary, name recognition and "inevitability" alone weren't enough to overcome a very badly-run, 90s-focused, drama-ridden campaign! Her top staff didn't even know how the Democratic Primaries delegate count worked state by state! It wasn't the "18 million" popular votes, it was the delegate count, stupid...
If she couldn't manage her campaign, her staff, and/or her finances, why in the world would she be the best qualified to run the country?!?!?!?
Enough! she lost! Not because of sexism, or because Obama "done her wrong"...but because of incompetence, period.
DC observer
· 1 year ago
I think Sebelius may have been the choice a couple of weeks ago, when the domain name was reserved, but over the last week or so (since the international conflict in Georgia), Obama probably changed his pick to Biden to get someone with more international experience. That's what I've been hearing...
TheFounder
· 1 year ago
Well perhaps the best way to phrase it is that we will all know for sure shortly...
Miller
· 1 year ago
The major problem with Biden and Bayh is that they both voted for the war in Iraq, and they're both Senators. How can Obama run on a message of bringing change to Washington by picking someone who voted for the war, and running a ticket of two senators? Biden just screams "Washington insider" to me. I don't understand why he's being touted as the most likely Obama VP. Just doesn't make sense if you followed the primaries and have an idea of how Obama thinks.
He doesn't need Biden as VP because of the Georgia conflict. Are people really that short-sighted that they think Obama will pick a VP based on today's news cycle? Georgia is not the start of a world war, conflicts like this pop up every few years around the world. What Obama needs to handle conflicts like the Georgia conflict is a good foreign policy cabinet. Biden could probably have more influence on foreign policy affairs in an Obama presidency as secretary of state than as VP.
The last thing about Biden is, have you seen him campaign for Obama at all? Anywhere? Campaigns watch these things. That's what VPs do, they campaign for the candidate from the convention until election day. Can you imagine Biden campaigning for anyone but himself? I can't see it. I know for a fact that Sebelius has been campaigning for Obama all over the country since January. There are videos on youtube showing many Obama events with Sebelius, but I can't find one with Biden. Sebelius has worked close with Obama's campaign and they're comfortable with her.
Sabrina
· 1 year ago
@TD HILL - Um, duh. Hillary is not going to take the VP spot. Are you nuts? No way would she take second place. My bet is on her being like, "No thanks. I'm not playing second fiddle."
Second of all, Obama made sure she is still on the ballot at the convention. What more of a peace offering could you possibly want? That's extending respect farther than any other candidate would ever do in the political arena.
Sour grapes causes wrinkles. Stop now TD HILL. Stop before it's too late.
Kate
· 1 year ago
Maybe you should consider this info
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: OBAMASEBELIUS.COM Created on: 15-Jan-07 Expires on: 15-Jan-09 Last Updated on: 16-Jan-08
Brian Layman
· 1 year ago
OK, interesting concept but it doesn't float...
Not all godaddy domains are likely VP candidates. Now if the Technical or Admin contacts matched but....
Administrative Contact: Admin, Admin admin@barackobama.com Obama for America 233 N. Michigan Ave Suite 1100 Chicago, Illinois 60601 United States 3128192008 Fax --
Technical Contact: Admin, Admin admin@barackobama.com Obama for America 233 N. Michigan Ave Suite 1100 Chicago, Illinois 60601 United States 3128192008 Fax --
vs..
Administrative Contact: Private, Registration OBAMASEBELIUS.COM@domainsbyproxy.com Domains by Proxy, Inc. DomainsByProxy.com 15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States (480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598
Technical Contact: Private, Registration OBAMASEBELIUS.COM@domainsbyproxy.com Domains by Proxy, Inc. DomainsByProxy.com 15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States (480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598
And the fact that ti was done behind DomainsByProxy, indicates that the domain wasn't registered in the same fashion.
Not to mention that a simple update with the registrar can happen at a moments notice and all of the domain owners may have been negotiated with during the vetting process. It doesn't seem to hard to just have the current domain owners sign a confidentiality agreement. The barackobama.com team is pretty web savvy, I don't think they would be leaving clues in the public registration.
luigimontanez
· 1 year ago
The domain was registered on January 15, 2007, which I believe was right when he announced via web video that he was forming an exploratory committee. I'm sure the nascent campaign back then would not have bought the exact domain they would need 20 months later.
Also, domaincontrol.com is just the domain name that GoDaddy uses for their DNS, which comes by default when you buy domains from them.
A recent Atlantic Monthly article went inside the Clinton campaign and verified what observant people already knew. Clinton was a lousy manager and would have been a lousy, disorganized president with a chaotic White House organization. No one can doubt her smarts and knowledge of the issues but being president is more than that. It's managing people and the issues. As a successful two term Governor of a red state, Sebelius has shown that she is a great manager. She is in many ways eminently MORE qualified than Hillary Rodham Clinton and brings governance skills to the presidential ticket in a way that none of the other VP candidates do.
Keith Hood
· 1 year ago
Luigi notes that the registration was made a long time ago which actually underscores what I've felt for many months now. I've always thought that Obama's first choice was Sebelius since before she even endorsed him in January of this year. He could have been persuaded not to choose her after vetting but I think he's had his eye on her as VP from the beginning.
It's tenuous at best that one can find a link between two domains registered on Go Daddy, arguably the largest domain registrant in the U.S.
Still pure speculation friends.
Joel
· 1 year ago
@TD Hill Why do you think Clinton is the most qualified candidate. As others have said here, Sebelius actually has more experience as a legislator, executive and bureaucrat than Clinton.
I am tired of the freaking games that Clinton has done over the last few months. She ran a horrible campaign and she does not deserve squat.
If people vote for McCain or sit out because they are mad she did not win, you will be to blame if McCain wins and we have 4 more years of this GOP crap. Kiss reproductive rights goodbye. Keep this miserable economy going and keep this miserable war/occupation going
trudy
· 1 year ago
TD Hill,
One great advantage Kathleen Sebelius has over Hillary Clinton is that she comes without Bill Clinton.
A second advantage is that she hasn't been running around for months trashing Obama and praising McCain.
macbabe
· 1 year ago
KS has ALWAYS been my first choice *fingers still crossed*
LeahDiMarco
· 1 year ago
I've been rooting for Governor Kathleen Sebelius for several months! I truly hope she is Obama's VP pick. Sebelius will be a great candidate and won't play the gender card. Sebelius is a great person of integrity and intelligence and would be a great role model for our youth!
Domain servers in listed order: NS09.DOMAINCONTROL.COM NS10.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Darlene Anthony
· 1 year ago
I hope so...go Obama/Sebelius! YEEEEEE HAAAAA!
adam
· 1 year ago
obamarichardson.com is registered to the same private proxy registration service as obamasebelius.com...so it could be a toss-up there. I should point out some really sick MIT student squatted obamakerry.com and obamakennedy.com.
So we may have a black man/white woman on one side and a white man/indian-american on the other.
...though, I suspect Jindal's dabbling in the occult (namely exorcisms) might come back to haunt him...
adam
· 1 year ago
oh, and obamaclinton.com is also registered by proxy but was registered in 2004...
El Jefe
· 1 year ago
Why wouldn't the Obama campaign just keep using barakobama.com? It isn't like anyone can spell Sebbielieous anyway.
Nick
· 1 year ago
Take it from a former Kansas who voted for Sebelius as Governor in 2006. You want Obama to pick Sebelius as VP!!!!!!!!!!!!
John H.
· 1 year ago
If Obama is dumb enough to pick KS he will surely lose.
He has a backstabbing reputation to begin with, and doing this to Hillary would be the ultimate sin. He cannot pick up any female and think it will help him.
Hillary is the only one with the experience, knowledge, good judgement, record of accomplishments, ready from day one person who also won the People's Votes.
There is no one out there to compare, male or female.
Any other pick would highlight Obama's bad judgement, lack of experience and ignorance.
MKR
· 1 year ago
There's nothing in there that indicates obamasebelius.com is owned by the Obama campaign. Everything there is completely normal for a domain registered with GoDaddy using a private registration.
The page you see there is a generic parking page. Every parked domain has one.
Connie
· 1 year ago
I hope it's Sebelius. That would be a great ticket there. The hell with Hillary. A very poor emotional psychotic campaign she ran.
Kansasone
· 1 year ago
Bad idea......Prez AND VP with no national security experience. Maybe I should say foriegn policy experience.
Richard John Doe
· 1 year ago
Obama has already lost. His choice for VP is unimportant and his leftist policies are not change, they are hold backs from failed Marxist regimes. Hoes that for hope and change you can believe in?
Sophie Amrain
· 1 year ago
to: Richard John Doe
Obama a leftist and holdover from Marxist regimes? Give me a break! If you can seriously consider that you must be looking onto the scenery from the far far right:-) Obama is a centrist, as all leftist people in this country will tell you, and are in fact complaining about.
Observer
· 1 year ago
Biden as SecState. He'll be effective and credible in that role. I know little about Kathleen Sebelius currently and studying up on her now.
SylviaB
· 1 year ago
I think Sebelius as the VP choice would be a wonderful choice. She is more in line with Barack Obama than any of the other VP's. Clinton -- too much dirt in closet, Kaine -- anti-choice, Bayh -- voted for war, Biden -- voted for war. Sebelius appears to have the empathy for others like Senator Obama. Sebelius would be a great choice!
Dee
· 1 year ago
This will perpel Obama to the top for sure!!! I hope he chooses this lady. I have heard and read nothing but great things, and it will also put to rest all of the Hillary as VP mess.....YUCK! All Hillary has managed to do is put women further back in time. It will be a long time before a women is in charge. It's sad to.because I LIKED Hillary. The key word there is "LIKED". Hillary was alright until she lost those 11 straight primaries. Then she took the low road. She accused Obama of many things....and then when she lost she acknowledged that she would be interested in the VP position with Obama. How ugly is that!!! She (Hillary) called this man all of those things and then she wants to run with him for office. PLEASE!!! Why would she want to run with someone that is all of those "bad" things she mentioned? I can't understand that! I am glad she will not be on the ticket. She and Bill have a lot of baggage anyway. My thing is this. For all of you people that don't like Obama for whatever reason.....then vote for McCain. When you vote for McCain...remember that you had a chance to better YOUR household. When your child is sick explain to that child why you can't afford to get them the help they need. When your house forecloses and you are on on the street remember that you had a chance to prevent that, but you let the color of a man's skin get in the way of that. You people ought to be ashamed of yourself for jepordizing the well-being of your family because of someone's skin color. Let's be honest....everyone knows Obama's policy is better for the household you live in as well as the country. So to vote for McCain if you are not making a king's ransom ($250,000) could only mean that you don't want to see someone of color in office. What else could it be other then that? This man McCain flip-flops more then flipper. He is also George Bush's mini-me. He does whatever Bush tells him. We can't afford another eight years of stupidity. One more thing....how does McCain have "more experience" then Obama? I looked up all of the presidents in the past and no where did I see McCain's name. I am pretty-sure McCain knows most of those guys seeing that he is almost 400 years old, but where is the experience? Just another lie to try and make this guy look good. Lord knows he will need all the help he can get....and YOU will too if he gets in office.
Obama "08"!!!!
MARY LOU CARTER
· 1 year ago
I WILL NEVER, EVER, EVER VOTE FOR OBAMA IF HE DOESN`T PICK HILLARY.
NEITHER WILL ANY OF MY FRIENDS- WILL WILL VOTE FOR MC CAIN
TheFounder
· 1 year ago
MARY LOU CARTER : Then vote for McCain. -- because Hillary isn't going on the ticket...
I Have My Eye On You
· 1 year ago
The Obama Hussien campaign thinks picking Sebelius is going to help them win. I don't think so. It's a slap in the face to Hillary. Whether you like her or not, more people voted for her than Obama. The DNC took the nomination from her and believe me, the women in this country are not going to for get it.
So, wait and see. Obama may have lots of money in the coffer, and a Political machine from Chicago backing him, but he can't change the fact that, he's not a reputable candidate. He's got too many skeletons in the closet, namely his religious mentor Rev. Wright. His wife's racist views. His associations with questionable people, like Ayers, the Priest(can't remember his name) Resko, come on people WAKE UP.
It's the less than intelligent kids in this country that are backing him, not the adults. So, baby boomers better get their write in votes in, and the rest better get to the polls on election day. Let's take back this country from the Children. Remember they are 28th in the world when it comes to education. Not too bright!
Not Fooled
· 1 year ago
Clinton supporters are refusing to back Obama because a female that was more qualified for the job did not get it and that obvious sexism played a major role. Add to that the anti-democratic behaviors that provided Obama his narrow margin and you have got alot of angry patriots on you hands, mostly female, but not all so.
Obama just does not get it.
NC
· 1 year ago
Squatters
debra
· 1 year ago
I am personally thrilled that Sen. Obama has selected a woman; however, this is not what will win him the election. Sen. Obama still does not tell us "HOW" he is going to accomplish all of the things as "CHANGE" as what his campaign is based on. I am a registered DEMOCRAT but at this point in time, I must vote for Sen. John McCain. At least when Sen. McCain talks of "CHANGE" he explains how he is going to make it happen.
sandpq
· 1 year ago
Your headline is misleading. Obama has not selected anyone as his vice president yet. Too bad. You're so desperate to derail the election towards your nominee, whoever it is. And by putting this news as if....you are weakening your media's hold on people's trust in your web publication. Don't kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.
Penny Blakely
· 1 year ago
Initially I was a Clinton supporter even before her husband became president. When the Jennifer Flowers and other rumors surfaced, I admired the way Hillary Clinton told the public that if they didn't like the man to not vote for him. I also admired the way she stood by him throughout all the news about his and hers private lifestyle. I admired the way she rebounded and became a Senator for New York even though she was not from that state. But, when I heard Barack speak, my heart was sold on his message and heartfelt desire to bring about change in the way our country does business. When I heard about Kathleen Sebelius' early support of him, I was impressed by her courage although I had never heard of her. The moment I saw her some months ago, my heart informed my mind that she was the one Obama should select as his Vice President. I believe that he can trust her to do what is right. Although I've never met her, I love the spirit of the woman from what I've seen and heard.
Penny Blakely
· 1 year ago
I continue to admire Mrs. Clinton for her courage and ability to go on in the face of continuing saga's about her husband whether true or not. In the face of competition sometimes we lose and sometimes we win. However, nothing is more heartbreaking than than matters of the heart related to a beloved and significant other who just happens to be the father of your child. Having said this, and with Barack Obama having won the democratic nomination, I strongly believe that he should be free to select a running mate with whom he feels most comfortable, Sometimes, one must step out on faith.
Shirley Bluiett
· 1 year ago
I hope Obama will pick Clinton for his VP. she will help him in November.
K. O'Brien
· 1 year ago
Some how statement comes off as any woman will do. That should sink Obamas campain for sure. Also to say he is picking a woman that thinks like him. Well nobody is really sure, what Obamas thinking. He has yet to stand firm on any issue. McCain will have a field day with this situation. Of course the issues McCain stands firm on are pretty scary. He definitly should not be running the country. I fear that if McCain is elected, he will be the last US President. If Obama wants to win, he must prove he is a Leader. Present an issue, and stand firm on it. Where does he stand on Civil Rights. Where does he stand on health care. Where does he stand on the role the United States will play in the future. Unemployment, US Economy, any issue. He said he was for Civil Liberties, yet signed another bill taking them away (Right to Privecy Vs Gov. right to info). He has a history of changing horse mid stream. These are not qualities for leadership. The best thing he has going for him is John McCain. The more McCain talks, the more votes Mr. Obama will get!
sammyjo
· 1 year ago
I got info its Biden!!!! the t shirts are being made as we speak at die hard
Callie
· 1 year ago
Sebelius would be a suicidal choice and would outrage the Clinton people, trust me. If you don't get that, or you think it shouldn't be so, at least accept that it IS so. My husband, who is an Obama supporter, says even he gets it. If Obama doesn't get it, he loses.
magdalena villaronga
· 1 year ago
NOW MORE THAN EVER I AM CONVINCED THAT OBAMA IS THE WORST POSSIBLE CANDIDATE. THE DEM PARTY HAS DONE A DISSERVICE TO THE NATION BY SELECTING OBAMA... I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT A LITTLE BETTER OF HIM IF HE HAD SELECTED HILLARY. SELECTING A WOMAN THAT IS NOT A NATIONAL ELEMENT AS HILLARY IS, IS A SLAP IN THE FACE OF HILLARY. I AM WRITING IN HILLARY IN MY BALLOT.
marlu castillo
· 1 year ago
I will switch to McCain if Obama does not choose Hillary as his running mate. Hillary would have been a better candidate for President.
Glenda
· 1 year ago
KS will NOT bring women home to Obama.
I'm one of the 18 million who voted for Hillary.
Julia
· 1 year ago
The goal in selecting a running mate is to balance out the candidate for president. That being said, a woman (minority in politics) from the midwest (like Chicago) who thinks like Obama, does not do the trick, sad to say. Both women are well-qualified in their own distinct ways. But what the party traditionally would opt for is someone white, male, older, more established and experienced, who appears to be more middle-of-the road. My money would be on Biden or Bayh. It would give McCain an edge at the convention, if he selects a running mate who is a woman. However, there is a lot of election between the convention and November. Just my two cents.
dwf
· 1 year ago
Put down the crack pipe, folks.
That whole agency needing lead time spiel is malarky of the highest order.
The Obama campaign all ready has a website, so any Obamasebelius.com action would be a domain redirect and nothing more.
Any changes would be to the main Obama site, which would not need "weeks to set up the code."
Furthermore, Obama has a team of web professionals working on the site, and don't need to hire out to do a cosmetic change (new logo, new pics, new copy) when he chooses a VP. And they certainly would not trust in an outside agency's discretion.
and finally, whatever domains are all ready registered don't mean a thing - they would just buy it or go with a different tag - like obamabayh08. Why do you think so many websites are XXXXthemovie.com? because they could not register xxxx.com, that's why. and so you work around it.
and not even fox news could make folk think obama and biden are behind a porn site, even if it is called obamabiden.com.
To: piss'TD Hill
· 1 year ago
"Frankly, this notion that “any woman will do” is the most ignorant, sexist and patronizing crap" - TD Hill
To: TD Hill I'm so tired of this notion that if your not a Clinton supporter than you must be an evil man... Clinton's been going around bashing Obama. Clinton should be out there campaigning for the Democratic Nominee. The attitude of you super feminist Clinton supports is going to account for less votes for Obama and more votes McCain. Obama would have been supporting Clinton if things had turned out the other way around. Feminism doesn't mean Obama/man hater. Check your facts on Sebelius before you go around slinging your "ignorant,..patronizing, crap"
Linds
· 1 year ago
I believe it was always hers to lose. Kathleen Sebelius was the ace up Obama's sleeve before the first primary. The fact that Obama's supporters in Congress managed to get her selected -- right under Sen. Clinton's nose -- as the Democratic responder to Bush's final SOTU address was the first ripple of a tidal wave of Clinton Campaign cluelessness. Sebelius announced her support for Obama the next day...I'm sure much to the shock of Penn, Wolfson, Ickes, and the Clintons I believe that Axelrod, Plouffe, and Obama have run the tightest, best-planned campaign in American history. And it's not over yet.
Protective of both Kathleen and Michelle, Obama was exceptionally careful to conduct a non-sexist campaign against Clinton. For those of you howling in disbelief, I remind you that the FOX's and MSNBC's of the world have a mind -- and goal -- of their own: Ratings...driven by controversy. The difference between Obama's campaign and his campaign coverage is, to paraphrase Mark Twain, the difference between lightning and a lightning bug. Wish that were true of the McCain campaign and the Mainstream Media, but it is not.
And finally, remember, Obama is a Christian. For those of you again howling in disgust or cynicism, you clearly haven't read his books. He is, to quote Anne Lamotte, "the other kind of Christian". He did unto Hillary what he would have others do unto Kathleen. Go after her record, go after her positions, go after her connections, but don't go after her gender. In running against Hillary's (and Bill's) record, lobbyists, hidden Foundation donors, and general Corporate Republicrat/Insider/Status Quo/Same-Old-Drama Persona and NOT her gender, Obama established the moral high-ground(work) for the candidacy of Kathleen Sebelius.
Effing brilliant.
Charles
· 1 year ago
I'm glad Obama picked Sebelius. It will be good to get her out of Kansas. ----- Well, at least until after November.
cyberbian
· 1 year ago
I wonder what the reaction to Chelsea Clinton being the choice would be. I wonder if she was on he long list.
cheryl e
· 1 year ago
good now the demodumbs can lose in Nov for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MCCAIN OFFICE IN DENVER RECEIVES ENVELOPE WITH WHITE POWDER AND DEATH THREAT... DEVELOPING... (on Drudgereport.com)
J Allen
· 1 year ago
If true, this is a very dumb move by Obama. Reports that he would choose a VP who would not over-shadow him is starting to seem truthful. Sebelius has no foreign policy experience along with none by Obama, NOT a good thing for him. At least Bush had the smarts to choose someone that did have a great deal of foreign policy experience. Plus, with all this talk about Obama being dishonest about his voting or lack there of as an Illinois senator with 6 "present" votes on critical abortion issues in '01 alone, Sebelius is gonna be more of a hinderance because of her support for Dr. George Tiller who has performed late-term abortions on underaged children, nonetheless and her refusal of not having a dinner at the Kansas' Govenor's mansion in his name. Sure he won a raffle for the dinner, but with all the national frenzy on this doctors lack of scruples, she could have declined. To me, this is truely a dumb pick, if true.
Bk
· 1 year ago
It is no doubt that Sebelius it the one. As for the prohardcore Hillary supporters their really just not that many. When you show Sebelius and her body of work next to Hillaries it not like she is not ready. He only needs to move the base a little then the rest will fall. The Hillary supporters are prochoice period the republicans are prolife . They will unite out of a common fear if not anything 4 more years of repubicans rule. Hillary has to much baggage the republucans have so much on her it is unreal including a movie called Hillaryclintonthemovie.com. They would swift vote Obama so quick. Also Obama will have to be on the attack and he can't defend Hillaries vote for the war. The Gov of Kansas is totally on message. She is no Hillary she is better. Why she is less polarizing she has already braught healthcare to the childen of kansas she also was one of the 1st Govmors to speak out against the war. She is also 60 she looks great and not tired like Hillary from the constant republican machine. No any women won't do bo this is no regular women. She is a great speaker she can attack and she is ROMAN CATHOLIC period.
THE GHETTO GURU
· 1 year ago
Anything is better than another stupid white person who thinks the world belongs to them! Whites are too selfish and are not fit to govern others!
Sharon
· 1 year ago
I agree with the Guru! Obama should pick another Black person or a Latino. Anything besides a white person! I am rather sick of them and the way they rule the nation. Watching Washington DC is just like watching TV. You only see white people like the rest of us don't have a life or an opinion. They got to be the worse people on earth!
Eggers
· 1 year ago
Damn. This article got my hopes up. Oh well.
apt
· 1 year ago
Obama threw women under the bus in his campaign. He threw his mother and grandmother under the bus so why not all white women. Go Sarah - Go Sarah
alexa
· 1 year ago
barack obama is sooooooooooooooooooo dumb i do not want to vote for you.you stink ewww makes me want to throw up on you im better ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha i think mccain is better than you ......................
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How many Obama campaign events has Biden stumped on? Any at all?
I wouldn't be surprised if Obama campaigns with Sebelius at the Iowa events she already has scheduled on Thursday. VP announcement could come Thursday morning, maybe with an early morning event in Chicago, before they fly to Des Moines and then campaign together Friday, sat, sun, in swing states, until the convention.
I think Sebelius is the SMART pick for Obama to make. She has the most upside of all the VP candidates, in terms of bringing women home to Obama and reinforcing Obama's change message. She's high risk / high reward. If Sebelius and Hillary Clinton campaign TOGETHER around the country, I think a lot of those female Clinton supporters, especially the older ones, will vote Obama. If Sebelius is the VP, the Obama campaign needs to get a lot of Sebelius / Clinton rallies going to stir up the media machine on this.
McCain and his handlers know the Clinton women are still out there, bitter about the primary, and they might try to pull some of them in with a female VP. That would be certain death for Obama's candidacy. If he's smart, he will have already considered this. If he picks Sebelius, who could McCain pick that would top that?
For Obama to pick a woman, who is not Hillary, is an open slap to Hillary, showing that the didn't not pick her because she was a woman, but because she was Hillary. Meaning he will have to answer all kinds of questions as to why he believed Hillary was not suitable, while Sebelius is. Further, if he parrots the bullshit, sexist answer of it being "because of Bill," he will strike even more discord within the party. He will force himself to continue the Hillary bashing that was so prevalent during the primary, which will gain him no votes from Hillary's supporters.
In short, it would be the height of foolishness for Obama to pick a woman who's name is not Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Sebelius is actually more qualified to be president than either Obama or Clinton. She was state representative in Kansas many years, Kansas insurance commissioner for eight years, and Governor for 6 years. Clinton has been a Senator for 8 years, but that's the only elected office she's held. How is that more qualified than Sebelius? You should check Sebelius' record in Kansas. She's rock-solid.
"For Obama to pick a woman, who is not Hillary, is an open slap to Hillary, showing that the didn’t not pick her because she was a woman, but because she was Hillary. Meaning he will have to answer all kinds of questions as to why he believed Hillary was not suitable, while Sebelius is."
Um...maybe I'm confused, but isn't that how it SHOULD work? That Hillary (or any other VP contender) is chosen or not based on who they are as individuals, not based on gender?
If he chooses Sebelius, why should he have to explain why Hillary was "not suitable" any more than he'd have to explain why Biden, Bayh, Kaine, or any of the other names that have been floated were "not suitable"? Just because she and Hillary are both women?
Picking Sebelius wouldn't mean there was something "unsuitable" about the other candidates. It just means that for whatever combination of reasons, he thought she would be the strongest choice. Period.
Don't get me wrong -- I'm not saying he should pick Sebelius. I was leaning toward her, but now I'm kind of hoping for Biden or even Hillary. But to me it defies logic for so-called "feminists" to take a position of: "Well, if he doesn't pick Hillary, he'd BETTER NOT pick another woman!"
Kathleen Sebelius is the most qualified to govern if she should be come President. She is post-partisan, outside of the beltway and has demonstrated political courage when it was neither easy nor convenient.
Moreover, she and Barack have a great rapport. She was an early endorser when most of the party - especial female party members - supported Clinton because Sebelius thought that Obama's message of inclusion was what the country needed.
Her selection would be akin to Bill Clinton doubling down on the change message with his selection of Al Gore. Lastly, the Sebelius selection would both excite the grassroots and would garner large amounts of media coverage.
She has long been my first choice and I would be ecstatic if she were the VEEP nominee.
Still, I hope I'm way wrong, and you're way right.
I can see that the agency would need some lead-time to make the website, etc., but why would they know anything more than the bottom line: "make a website for Obama/______". The more that is shared outside the inner-circle, the more is leaked (case-in-point) and the less that sounds like the No-Drama-Obama campaign.
If she couldn't manage her campaign, her staff, and/or her finances, why in the world would she be the best qualified to run the country?!?!?!?
Enough! she lost! Not because of sexism, or because Obama "done her wrong"...but because of incompetence, period.
He doesn't need Biden as VP because of the Georgia conflict. Are people really that short-sighted that they think Obama will pick a VP based on today's news cycle? Georgia is not the start of a world war, conflicts like this pop up every few years around the world. What Obama needs to handle conflicts like the Georgia conflict is a good foreign policy cabinet. Biden could probably have more influence on foreign policy affairs in an Obama presidency as secretary of state than as VP.
The last thing about Biden is, have you seen him campaign for Obama at all? Anywhere? Campaigns watch these things. That's what VPs do, they campaign for the candidate from the convention until election day. Can you imagine Biden campaigning for anyone but himself? I can't see it. I know for a fact that Sebelius has been campaigning for Obama all over the country since January. There are videos on youtube showing many Obama events with Sebelius, but I can't find one with Biden. Sebelius has worked close with Obama's campaign and they're comfortable with her.
Second of all, Obama made sure she is still on the ballot at the convention. What more of a peace offering could you possibly want? That's extending respect farther than any other candidate would ever do in the political arena.
Sour grapes causes wrinkles. Stop now TD HILL. Stop before it's too late.
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And the fact that ti was done behind DomainsByProxy, indicates that the domain wasn't registered in the same fashion.
So... the only thing I can tell you confidently any which way about a vice president on the 2008 ticket is that Wayne Allyn Root is the Libertarian VP candidate of choice: http://www.bobbarr2008.com/issues/ http://www.bobbarr2008.com/root/
Also, domaincontrol.com is just the domain name that GoDaddy uses for their DNS, which comes by default when you buy domains from them.
http://leftmostbit.com/2008/who-owns-that-domain
It's tenuous at best that one can find a link between two domains registered on Go Daddy, arguably the largest domain registrant in the U.S.
Still pure speculation friends.
I am tired of the freaking games that Clinton has done over the last few months. She ran a horrible campaign and she does not deserve squat.
If people vote for McCain or sit out because they are mad she did not win, you will be to blame if McCain wins and we have 4 more years of this GOP crap. Kiss reproductive rights goodbye. Keep this miserable economy going and keep this miserable war/occupation going
One great advantage Kathleen Sebelius has over Hillary Clinton is that she comes without Bill Clinton.
A second advantage is that she hasn't been running around for months trashing Obama and praising McCain.
I truly hope she is Obama's VP pick.
Sebelius will be a great candidate and won't play the gender card.
Sebelius is a great person of integrity and intelligence and would be a great role model for our youth!
Obama/Sebelius '08
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additionally, squatters have taken mccainromney.com (i think...), mccainpawlenty.com, mccainhuckabee.com, mccainridge.com (the MIT sicko), but VERY interesting is that mccainjindal.com is registered to Protected Domain Services...
So we may have a black man/white woman on one side and a white man/indian-american on the other.
...though, I suspect Jindal's dabbling in the occult (namely exorcisms) might come back to haunt him...
He has a backstabbing reputation to begin with, and doing this to Hillary would be the ultimate sin. He cannot pick up any female and think it will help him.
Hillary is the only one with the experience, knowledge, good judgement, record of accomplishments, ready from day one person who also won the People's Votes.
There is no one out there to compare, male or female.
Any other pick would highlight Obama's bad judgement, lack of experience and ignorance.
The page you see there is a generic parking page. Every parked domain has one.
Obama a leftist and holdover from Marxist regimes? Give me a break! If you can seriously consider that you must be looking onto the scenery from the far far right:-)
Obama is a centrist, as all leftist people in this country will tell you, and are in fact complaining about.
Obama "08"!!!!
NEITHER WILL ANY OF MY FRIENDS- WILL WILL VOTE FOR MC CAIN
So, wait and see. Obama may have lots of money in the coffer, and a Political machine from Chicago backing him, but he can't change the fact that, he's not a reputable candidate. He's got too many skeletons in the closet, namely his religious mentor Rev. Wright. His wife's racist views. His associations with questionable people, like Ayers, the Priest(can't remember his name) Resko, come on people WAKE UP.
It's the less than intelligent kids in this country that are backing him, not the adults. So, baby boomers better get their write in votes in, and the rest better get to the polls on election day. Let's take back this country from the Children. Remember they are 28th in the world when it comes to education. Not too bright!
Obama just does not get it.
I'm one of the 18 million who voted for Hillary.
That whole agency needing lead time spiel is malarky of the highest order.
The Obama campaign all ready has a website, so any Obamasebelius.com action would be a domain redirect and nothing more.
Any changes would be to the main Obama site, which would not need "weeks to set up the code."
Furthermore, Obama has a team of web professionals working on the site, and don't need to hire out to do a cosmetic change (new logo, new pics, new copy) when he chooses a VP. And they certainly would not trust in an outside agency's discretion.
and finally, whatever domains are all ready registered don't mean a thing - they would just buy it or go with a different tag - like obamabayh08. Why do you think so many websites are XXXXthemovie.com? because they could not register xxxx.com, that's why. and so you work around it.
and not even fox news could make folk think obama and biden are behind a porn site, even if it is called obamabiden.com.
To: TD Hill
I'm so tired of this notion that if your not a Clinton supporter than you must be an evil man...
Clinton's been going around bashing Obama. Clinton should be out there campaigning for the Democratic Nominee.
The attitude of you super feminist Clinton supports is going to account for less votes for Obama and more votes McCain. Obama would have been supporting Clinton if things had turned out the other way around.
Feminism doesn't mean Obama/man hater.
Check your facts on Sebelius before you go around slinging your "ignorant,..patronizing, crap"
I believe that Axelrod, Plouffe, and Obama have run the tightest, best-planned campaign in American history. And it's not over yet.
Protective of both Kathleen and Michelle, Obama was exceptionally careful to conduct a non-sexist campaign against Clinton. For those of you howling in disbelief, I remind you that the FOX's and MSNBC's of the world have a mind -- and goal -- of their own:
Ratings...driven by controversy. The difference between Obama's campaign and his campaign coverage is, to paraphrase Mark Twain, the difference between lightning and a lightning bug. Wish that were true of the McCain campaign and the Mainstream Media, but it is not.
And finally, remember, Obama is a Christian. For those of you again howling in disgust or cynicism, you clearly haven't read his books. He is, to quote Anne Lamotte, "the other kind of Christian". He did unto Hillary what he would have others do unto Kathleen. Go after her record, go after her positions, go after her connections, but don't go after her gender. In running against Hillary's (and Bill's) record, lobbyists, hidden Foundation donors, and general Corporate Republicrat/Insider/Status Quo/Same-Old-Drama Persona and NOT her gender, Obama established the moral high-ground(work) for the candidacy of Kathleen Sebelius.
Effing brilliant.
Well, at least until after November.
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Plus, with all this talk about Obama being dishonest about his voting or lack there of as an Illinois senator with 6 "present" votes on critical abortion issues in '01 alone, Sebelius is gonna be more of a hinderance because of her support for Dr. George Tiller who has performed late-term abortions on underaged children, nonetheless and her refusal of not having a dinner at the Kansas' Govenor's mansion in his name. Sure he won a raffle for the dinner, but with all the national frenzy on this doctors lack of scruples, she could have declined. To me, this is truely a dumb pick, if true.
Go Sarah - Go Sarah
i think mccain is better than you ......................
with hate
alexa